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I'm leaning pretty heavily toward buying some kind of a Linux powered mobile internet device, but am having a terrible time deciding between the Asus EEE PC, the Nokia N810, and the slightly older but drastically less expensive N800.
I'm looking for something that'll mainly be used loafing around the house, but hopefully powerful enough that it'll be all I need when traveling. Working from home I can't stand the sight of my desk in the evenings and the laptop has become my wife's primary computer, so I'd like something casual to poke around the web myself. Typical usage would be:
The Asus EEE PC strikes me as the most powerful. It's borderline full on laptop functionality for an extremely low price (considering). It should be able to do all the above and more. I like that it has an ethernet jack in addition to the wifi support, which neither of the Nokia's does. (although this would rarely be used) I also like that there's the option to install other Linux distributions down the road and easily flash back to the factory installed OS within seconds. The full laptop'ish layout strikes me as the most convenient for actually getting some work done. I can't type for long on a laptop keyboard due to pain in the wrists and I suspect this would be even worse, but for short periods of time it should get the job done. The EEE strikes me as the most capable for travel, taking this should do everything I'd need.
The Nokia N810 however has tremendous appeal. It packs the same resolution on a screen several inches smaller than the EEE, slide out thumb keypad, GPS (albeit with limited software functionality), and a very vibrant user community. I don't consider it as hackable in that I doubt I'll be experimenting with any Linux distributions on the thing, but the platform is very open for development and it sounds like great apps are being written for it. It looks spectacular, is much smaller than the others, and strikes me as the most convenient device to just pickup and use. It *looks* like it's powerful enough to play video content from some kind of storage medium, but I don't think it's quite as potent as the EEE. I'm not sure if it's powerful or comfortable enough to be the only device used while traveling, but if not it's extremely close. The biggest problem however is the price. I didn't make the cut for a developer discount and without that it's the most expensive device of them all at around $475 CDN. ($75 more than the EEE model I'm looking at, and $200-$275 more than the N800 from Dell)
So finally there's the N800, very similar to the N810 and about half the price. No hardware keyboard (the most enticing), no GPS, slightly larger, slightly less powerful, and not as readable outside. While the N810 has advantages they don't read like enough to justify the drastic price difference.
So all said I'm kind of leaning towards the N810, but it just seems too overpriced to commit right now. The Asus strikes me as the most practical choice of them all, it's easily small enough to carry around just about anywhere, but I'm not sure if I want an uber-small laptop or an even smaller pocket sized tablet. The N800 is attractive only in that it's almost as cool as the N810 for a much more reasonable price, but then maybe the best bet is to wait on the N810 to drop. (although that'll probably then be followed by a newer hipper device and the whole cycle repeats itself again)
Having a hard time making a decision on this one.
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Dima or Coop would tell you
Dima or Coop would tell you to go with an iPod Touch, no doubt.
For the low low price of a
For the low low price of a human soul.
beware the ipod touch. it
beware the ipod touch. it will NOT support flash enabled websites... aka 94% of whats awesome on the internet.
yes... it has a widget for youtube... but no support for flash? you've got to be kidding me apple.
I've been pretty happy with
I've been pretty happy with the n800 for the above sorts of tasks, although I also picked up a Stowaway Bluetooth keyboard for when I wanted to type more (like actually replying to email). You can definitely play some videos (I've transcoded some TV episodes from the TiVo to watch on it) although you generally want to transcode them first. And youtube works pretty well since the upgrade to OS2008.
I played with an EEE at NCIX
I played with an EEE at NCIX when I was in Vancouver earlier this month. The keyboard is a little awkward and it's a little slow but manageable. I was concerned about the low memory. But it ran Open Office, Firefox and Python no problem. It's a full computer in a nice package. I don't know about video quality. Audio shouldn't be an issue. My Treo can do all the other stuff mostly using the mobile versions of Google, but having something you can code to easily is very attractive.
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Considering the things you
Considering the things you want to do, the best fit seems to be the EEE. I bought one from Malaysia during my vacations, and have been using it everyday for around 4-8 hours for a month. It has all but replaced my laptop at home. In the office, I leave my company issue ThinkPad at the desk, and use the EEE for business trips.
I had a similar debate last
I had a similar debate last month when deciding which model I should buy. I decided for the N800.
In my case I wanted more PIM functionality so that I could replace my Clie TH55 (Palm OS), which also had Wi-Fi, blutetooth and IrDA (missing in the Nokias).
Here's a few of the decision factors that leaned me towards the N800:
1) N810 sliding keyboard not good enough. I would have to buy an external anyway.
2) GPS "crippled" functionality in the N810. For the upgrade price I could buy the Nokia's GPS module for the N800.
3) N800 get the same performance as the N810 after OS upgrade (already did mine and it is working faster).
4) N800 has a swivable camera that lets me look at the screen at the same time I take a picture. N810's is fixed forward.
5) Price difference definitely does not justify.
What I think the Nokias miss.
1) Only works as a slave USB. Cannot read USB memory drives and disks. This would be a great functionality.
2) The power adapter is too flimsy. My charger's pin broke with a small accidental yank. I have had dozens of gadgets for years that were really abused and none had this problem. Nokia has to fix this in the next generation talets.
3) Sotware to to read/write Word and Exel files.
Good luck in your decision!
http://www.engadget.com/2007/
http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/14/asus-confirms-the-8gb-10-inch-eee-pc/
That's a nice change coming
That's a nice change coming for the EEE, the screen on the current models is a little small considering all the wasted space around it. A slightly higher res would be pretty awesome too. Hopefully the price won't shoot far past $500.
I ended up ruling out the n810 when I looked at how similar it is to the n800, how much it would cost and how little I actually need this thing.
So then I battled between the n800 and the Eee for several days and ended up ordering a n800 from Dell as the Nokia's had more gadget appeal for me. Couple tradeoffs for going with the cheapest option but I figure I've got the wife's laptop available to steal if I need mass storage, ethernet, or something for extended typing. Then again there's always SD cards, bluetooth keyboards, and portable ethernet to wifi kits. (probably far from the cheapest option after a couple of those though)
Anxiously awaiting it's arrival.
I have chosen the Nokia
I have chosen the Nokia N810, after some initial excitement about the EEE. For me, the telling point is size. The n810 is small enough that
If you are already carrying a backpack and don't have the horsepower requirements I have in #3, the EEE does seem to be an interesting fit.
Given Apple's general discouragement of hacking the iPhone, I am not ready to go that direction. The lack of Bluetooth keyboard support there is also a killer point.
You may find that Dell is
You may find that Dell is offering a good price on the n810. I found $419 + shipping just a moment ago.
Use a search term of n810 on their US web site, but make sure you're happy to wait as "USUALLY ships in 3-5 weeks". The caps are mine, based on previous shipping experiences with Dell.
I settled on the N800. I've
I settled on the N800. I've ordered(Solarius V5-SR Mini-Solar BT-25SR-OP for $43 from Semson's, hasn't arrived yet) an external GPS so it can sit up on the dashboard, roof or on the top of a backpack while hiking).
My primary use will be as a GPS. There is open source mapping software, Maemo Mapper and you can download free map, topo and satellite data from Google, etc.
If I want a keyboard, I'll get a bluetooth one that is better than the N810. You can load up the N800 with two 8gb DCHC cards for 16GB total.
Now if I can just get it to connect to my wifi system . . .
Oh, I just saw the N800 for
Oh, I just saw the N800 for $179 at Buy.com on Dec 19, 2007. It's not on sale now, but may reoccur at any time.
I got mine on ebay slightly used for $190.
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